Idea Captain Commands

Would you like to be able to Command your crew members on your ship?

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Hotshot555

Hotshot555

Sea Legs
This Idea is intended for large ships that open to the public and cannot see names, and in the event the captain does not crew to make things a bit easier to manage, and can also benefit in SvS, and benefit Role Players to an extent.

Story behind the idea (optional reading) : During my days of Potco I opened up my ship to the public to get more people on board to do higher loot runs and material runs, however given most of my ship had basics with the occasional Unlimited player (and yes I am aware everybody will have unlimited now) it was quite difficult to get very far. After managing to sink a bounty hunter, my health bar was in the yellow so I asked for somebody to repair the ship, not a single person moved from the cannons, and then I ended having to head to dock because nobody would repair, and of course people begged me to stay out and I kept telling them to repair, and finally got one person, but by then it was too late, I was forced to dock and ended up being the bad guy for it.

With that said, this idea will at least help with giving Captains more control over their crew by specifically picking a crew member of their own choosing to repair their ship or do other specific tasks. So this is the general idea of what I had in mind.

A feature that can be toggled via clicking the crew tab of a ships crew count to allow Captains of their ships to issue commands to specific crew members on board their ship selected by clicking the Crew Number icon below the ships health and sail bars (The crew count circle) and selecting the player and issue specific orders as follows: Repair, Cease Fire, Man the Cannon, and Take the Wheel.

Also the Captain has a "Command All" option that tells all players on deck the following commands: Cease Fire, Hold Fire, Fire at Will (fire freely), Open Fire (which will activate the Open Fire sailing ability), Repair, and Man the Cannons. However players will retain their freedom from being able to disobey the order(s) given.

Captains will also reserve the right to kick you off of the ship for using the command prompts which will teleport the kicked player to the last island they were on.
Edit 8/29/2016: Kicking will be up for debate below and will determine on how kicking on ships will be handled. Speak your voice or forever hold your piece.

Debates will be frequently changed to be commented on as a way of getting community feedback on the idea to see if it improves or worsens over the course of time. Please leave a comment for each debate if you wish to express your opinion.

Debate(s)

Kicking Ability:

1. Captain can freely kick at will.
2. Captain can kick IF the player disobeys an order.
3. Captain can initiate a Crew Vote (Prompted as "Walk the Plank")

You may mix any of these 3 options together. (Example: Captain can initiate a Crew Vote if the player disobeys an order)

AFK Kicking:

1. Should going afk kick you off of a cannon to free it up and let you ride along the rest of the trip although you will be at the mercy of the captains kick to free up a crew slot?
2. Should it give you a 60 second warning once the afk is active, and then auto-kick you off the ship with all loot you obtained up to that point onto your last island visited?
 
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the only issue i have with being able to kick someone of the ship is that we all know it would be highly abused. A captain is about to port and just tosses everyone as they port so nobody gets anything but him/her. I do like the concept though. I remember so many folks not doing anything on ships and not listening to who was driving.
 
I do not like the idea of forcing the player via script off one thing and on to another. This will affect game play negatively imo. Lets not forget now that we are Pirates and have little respect for rules. The captain's orders should appear in the chatbox and as a pop-up like open fire and take cover. If a pirate disobeys then throw him overboard. I don't really care if the disobidient pirate gets teleported back to the island from which he came from but it would be realistic if the pirate be dumped on the closest island to the ship.

Also it would be neat to draw a classical little jolly roger emblem above the ship owner's head. This would indicate that he is the owner of the ship. This does need a bit of consideration though.
 
xXPANAGE28 said:
I do not like the idea of forcing the player via script off one thing and on to another. This will affect game play negatively imo. Lets not forget now that we are Pirates and have little respect for rules. The captain's orders should appear in the chatbox and as a pop-up like open fire and take cover. If a pirate disobeys then throw him overboard. I don't really care if the disobidient pirate gets teleported back to the island from which he came from but it would be realistic if the pirate be dumped on the closest island to the ship.

Also it would be neat to draw a classical little jolly roger emblem above the ship owner's head. This would indicate that he is the owner of the ship. This does need a bit of consideration though.
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i think a cool animation for this would be your pirate swims up to the island rather than just landing on the island lol
 
Johnny Mak said:
the only issue i have with being able to kick someone of the ship is that we all know it would be highly abused. A captain is about to port and just tosses everyone as they port so nobody gets anything but him/her. I do like the concept though. I remember so many folks not doing anything on ships and not listening to who was driving.
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I completely agree however if you look at this as a whole, I would only use it with friends I know.... Increase how we are working.
 
MattDiMegs said:
I completely agree however if you look at this as a whole, I would only use it with friends I know.... Increase how we are working.
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see that of course would work...but say someone opens their ship up publicly, and you drop in, help them lay waste to the carribean, and poof... you swimming up to the last island you left...the idea as a whole is fantastic i totally love it
 
Perhaps if they don't obey they get put into the brig for the duration of the sailing? But then to have a brig there would have to be other ship decks...
 
I think this would be an awesome idea. I like the idea of an alert/notification like Open Fire, because that is very visible to everyone on the ship and would be nice so the captain doesn't have to type out whatever they need done. I don't think the captain should be able to force people to do jobs, I just think that in an mmo people should not be controlled by another player, nor would I feel completely comfortable controlling what someone else does.

I also like the idea of being able to kick people off your ship (I thought you were already able to do that?) because that prevents people from being able to just sit on your ship and take the rewards for doing nothing.

Nice idea! :)

Edit: Now that I looked it up, you were only able to kick players off in SvS, so it would be nice to add to all sailing.
 
Johnny Mak said:
see that of course would work...but say someone opens their ship up publicly, and you drop in, help them lay waste to the carribean, and poof... you swimming up to the last island you left...the idea as a whole is fantastic i totally love it
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I see what you mean and I would be happy to help you figure out a way to incorporate this if you wanted to.
 
Captains can just type in the chat what they want players to do, I think that's easier than adding a whole separate feature for it.

But I totally agree with the ability to boot players off your ship, that should definitely be in the game.
 
Yeah, its a decent idea but the same thing can be achieved by typing it in the chat. If anything, these should be added as Speed Chat phrases if they're not already.

As far as the Kick option goes, I think if this feature is added to normal ships then if a player is kicked then they should still get their share of the loot. That should prevent abuse.
 
jzfredskins said:
Yeah, its a decent idea but the same thing can be achieved by typing it in the chat. If anything, these should be added as Speed Chat phrases if they're not already.

As far as the Kick option goes, I think if this feature is added to normal ships then if a player is kicked then they should still get their share of the loot. That should prevent abuse.
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The way I had it pictured is one the player was issued the order via clicking their name from a roster of people on the ship, it would tell them the order via popup and quick chat. With this is will still allow the captain to steer their ship instead of sailing in a straight line either while a ship is firing at them, or just running away for repairs. having that maneuverability especially in SvS.

That's also a good addition as well to let the kicked crew member have a share of what they had, although that could still encourage freeloading, unless an auto kick is implemented from being inactive or afk.

The idea is still in early development and thanks to all the feedback I am getting a better idea for what will work, what needs tweaked or outright removed, but any way I look at it, I can't please everybody with the idea, especially when it comes to the captain either actively kicking, or only kicking should someone disobey the order after a certain amount of time.
 
This is a great idea I think there should be a crew vote while out at sea for kicking people off that don't listen to Capt orders that way there's no problems. And fixing the ship should be a number one thing to do after looting a ship for crew members on board that way the Capt gets to keep his/her share of the loot to and wont always have to spend gold to get it fix. So for the kicking people off board should only be done when not fighting another enemy , when the Capt gets his/her ship away from the enemy. Capt should than of the option to order crew member to fix ship. Than if crew members not follow Capt orders there should be a voting system to kick crew members off board. LMS SOUNDS GOOD HUH?<< :)
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This is one big great Idea, I think once we find a way to get around the people that will troll with it and abuse it... I think it would work great!
 
IRADOI said:
This is a great idea I think there should be a crew vote while out at sea for kicking people off that don't listen to Capt orders that way there's no problems. And fixing the ship should be a number one thing to do after looting a ship for crew members on board that way the Capt gets to keep his/her share of the loot to and wont always have to spend gold to get it fix. So for the kicking people off board should only be done when not fighting another enemy , when the Capt gets his/her ship away from the enemy. Capt should than of the option to order crew member to fix ship. Than if crew members not follow Capt orders there should be a voting system to kick crew members off board. LMS SOUNDS GOOD HUH?<< :)
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THE CREW VOTE SYSTEM COULD BE CALLED WALIKING THE PLAINT
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Thank you all for your feedback so far, and have concluded from the last 2 debates that Players will NOT be forced to do the orders that the Captain gives. However with that said a new debate has emerged. Due to not knowing I couldn't change the poll vote, I have to resort to a comment vote, but please bare with me as I try to iron out the idea to its max effectiveness that people can get behind.

Debate: Kicking Ability: say the number for the option in your comment if you wish to vote on them.
1. Captain can freely kick at will.
2. Captain can kick IF the player disobeys an order.
3. Captain can initiate a Crew Vote (Prompted as "Walk the Plank")

You may mix any of these 3 options together. (Example: Captain can initiate a Crew Vote if the player disobeys an order)
 
Hotshot555 said:
Thank you all for your feedback so far, and have concluded from the last 2 debates that Players will NOT be forced to do the orders that the Captain gives. However with that said a new debate has emerged. Due to not knowing I couldn't change the poll vote, I have to resort to a comment vote, but please bare with me as I try to iron out the idea to its max effectiveness that people can get behind.

Debate: Kicking Ability: say the number for the option in your comment if you wish to vote on them.
1. Captain can freely kick at will.
2. Captain can kick IF the player disobeys an order.
3. Captain can initiate a Crew Vote (Prompted as "Walk the Plank")

You may mix any of these 3 options together. (Example: Captain can initiate a Crew Vote if the player disobeys an order)
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thank you for prompting my walking the plank idea :) :P
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I dont like kicking if afk
Some ppl have an unexpected emergancy and may have to leave due to real life they should still get there fair share because what if they helped out a lot
And listened to the captain really well
 
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