Civil War Team Captain America or Team Iron Man Poll

Team Captain America or Team Iron Man?

  • Team Captain America

    Votes: 8 47.1%

  • Team Iron Man

    Votes: 9 52.9%
  • Total voters
    17
I don't think Captain America nor Iron Man are wrong. Both have the best of intentions, and both points of view have pros and cons. But I've never liked Iron Man and Captain America is my favorite superhero. It used to be Spiderman, but all the rebooting and such has just left me uninterested in him now. I miss Tobey Maguire's Spiderman movies. Those were so good. And since the MCU movies hit, I've really enjoyed Chris Evans' portrayal of Cap. And Winter Soldier was probably one of the best Marvel movies ever, next to Avengers and Spider-Man 2.
 
Captain Jack Truesilver said:
I don't think Captain America nor Iron Man are wrong. Both have the best of intentions, and both points of view have pros and cons. But I've never liked Iron Man and Captain America is my favorite superhero. It used to be Spiderman, but all the rebooting and such has just left me uninterested in him now. I miss Tobey Maguire's Spiderman movies. Those were so good. And since the MCU movies hit, I've really enjoyed Chris Evans' portrayal of Cap. And Winter Soldier was probably one of the best Marvel movies ever, next to Avengers and Spider-Man 2.
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I think both sides believe that they are doing the right thing. In my opinion, Iron Man and his team are attempting to stop a fight from happening by succumbing to power. They believe that by allowing the UN to take them over, they will not only be controlled (which they believe is good) but also by joining the UN now they won't be forced later. Captain America and his team believe that being controlled will not allow the Avengers to make the best calls, and those controlling them could even become corrupt. They are fighting to preserve their freedom as a group. However, their fight is pretty much hopeless. Even if they beat Iron Man and his team, they will have the whole world on them. In the end, both sides have understandable motivations, but I believe that its best to do the right thing even if you don't think you can win. By being controlled, the Avengers risk being used for the wrong reasons.

Another thing to consider, the motivations line up with characters almost perfectly. If you consider Iron Man's motives:
In the first movie, Iron Man created weapons, but when his enemies used them for the wrong purposes, Iron man felt very guilty because of it. He blamed it on his own inability to control them.
In Age of Ultron, Iron Man was the one who created Ultron. He was indirectly responsible for hundreds of deaths. Iron Man also views this as a failure on his part.
Influenced by these events, it is understandable why Iron Man doesn't trust himself or the Avengers to make the right choices.

If you consider Captain America, he has his own character driven motives:
Captain America (being patriotic and all) values freedom over safety.
In the Winter Soldier, Captain America saw what could happen when an administration becomes corrupt. He saw Hydra overtake Shield from the inside.
Captain America was hunted like an outlaw (he is also one in Civil War)
These events influence Captain American to lead him to stray away from being controlled.

All of these character traits and events line up perfectly with motives, which will hopefully make for an amazing movie with terrific emotion driven action.
 
SeaWalker7567 said:
I think both sides believe that they are doing the right thing. In my opinion, Iron Man and his team are attempting to stop a fight from happening by succumbing to power. They believe that by allowing the UN to take them over, they will not only be controlled (which they believe is good) but also by joining the UN now they won't be forced later. Captain America and his team believe that being controlled will not allow the Avengers to make the best calls, and those controlling them could even become corrupt. They are fighting to preserve their freedom as a group. However, their fight is pretty much hopeless. Even if they beat Iron Man and his team, they will have the whole world on them. In the end, both sides have understandable motivations, but I believe that its best to do the right thing even if you don't think you can win. By being controlled, the Avengers risk being used for the wrong reasons.

Another thing to consider, the motivations line up with characters almost perfectly. If you consider Iron Man's motives:
In the first movie, Iron Man created weapons, but when his enemies used them for the wrong purposes, Iron man felt very guilty because of it. He blamed it on his own inability to control them.
In Age of Ultron, Iron Man was the one who created Ultron. He was indirectly responsible for hundreds of deaths. Iron Man also views this as a failure on his part.
Influenced by these events, it is understandable why Iron Man doesn't trust himself or the Avengers to make the right choices.

If you consider Captain America, he has his own character driven motives:
Captain America (being patriotic and all) values freedom over safety.
In the Winter Soldier, Captain America saw what could happen when an administration becomes corrupt. He saw Hydra overtake Shield from the inside.
Captain America was hunted like an outlaw (he is also one in Civil War)
These events influence Captain American to lead him to stray away from being controlled.

All of these character traits and events line up perfectly with motives, which will hopefully make for an amazing movie with terrific emotion driven action.
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My thoughts exactly. And I agree more with Cap's view than Tony's, though I understand his reasoning. It's not exactly a solvable issue, though, be it in the real world or in the MCU. Both solutions have potential to be great and potential to become corrupt. It's not black and white.
 
Captain Jack Truesilver said:
My thoughts exactly. And I agree more with Cap's view than Tony's, though I understand his reasoning. It's not exactly a solvable issue, though, be it in the real world or in the MCU. Both solutions have potential to be great and potential to become corrupt. It's not black and white.
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I agree, I also understand the logic behind either solution, I just agree more with Cap. There are a lot of people who think that if we just sit down and try to understand each other everything will work out. However, the real world doesn't work like that.
 
Stormtimbers said:
But Iron Man shoots people with lasers and small missiles, plus he can call on his suit from anywhere like Thor's Hammer :)
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Basically, would you rather have a freaking awesome suit of armor that makes you nearly indestructible and allows you to fly, or a shield that's...really hard.
 
SeaWalker7567 said:
Basically, would you rather have a freaking awesome suit of armor that makes you nearly indestructible and allows you to fly, or a shield that's...really hard.
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I'd rather have a tool that I can use both offensively and defensively, while also being a superhuman with the best hand-to-hand combat skills in the Marvel universe (I didn't read the comics but I found out through other sources). And I'd rather not have the wisdom, or lack thereof, that Tony Stark has. In the movies, Tony doesn't exactly consider pros and cons or long-term effects, especially in Age of Ultron. I'd rather have Cap's leadership skills and wisdom than Tony's gadgets.

Plus, Steve's character reminds me a lot of myself, including his progression throughout the movie franchise. I've noticed that I've kind of followed a similar path, in my own small ways, to Cap's.

Of course, while Cap is currently my favorite superhero, my all-time favorite is probably still Spiderman, and nobody is as cool as Spidey. When he's not being rebooted every four years, anyways.

Also, Captain America and Spiderman are both real superheroes. Iron Man is just a really arrogant guy in a robot suit. He's a nicer guy nowadays, but even so...
"Big man in a suit of armor. Take that off, what are you?"
:captamerica:
 
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Captain Jack Truesilver said:
I'd rather have a tool that I can use both offensively and defensively, while also being a superhuman with the best hand-to-hand combat skills in the Marvel universe (I didn't read the comics but I found out through other sources). And I'd rather not have the wisdom, or lack thereof, that Tony Stark has. In the movies, Tony doesn't exactly consider pros and cons or long-term effects, especially in Age of Ultron. I'd rather have Cap's leadership skills and wisdom than Tony's gadgets.

Plus, Steve's character reminds me a lot of myself, including his progression throughout the movie franchise. I've noticed that I've kind of followed a similar path, in my own small ways, to Cap's.

Of course, while Cap is currently my favorite superhero, my all-time favorite is probably still Spiderman, and nobody is as cool as Spidey. When he's not being rebooted every four years, anyways.

Also, Captain America and Spiderman are both real superheroes. Iron Man is just a really arrogant guy in a robot suit. He's a nicer guy nowadays, but even so...
"Big man in a suit of armor. Take that off, what are you?"
:captamerica:
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1. The armor can be used offensively and defensively, it protects him from bullets and other stuff that would kill a normal human, and he uses it offensively because of all the weaponry that is part of the suit.

2. Iron Man may not be the best at hand to hand combat, but when he hits something it hurts a LOT because he has metal fists. Also, he doesn't need hand to hand combat when his main form of attack is from a range.

3. He might not be the best at long term thinking, but he knows how to use a team to work together (Cap does too) In the original Avengers, he uses Jarvis to find a weak spot on the Leviathan, brings it to Banner, knowing that he will transform, and then after the Hulk attacks the Leviathan he shoots the weak spot that Jarvis found to kill it.
 
Captain Jack Truesilver said:
I'd rather have a tool that I can use both offensively and defensively, while also being a superhuman with the best hand-to-hand combat skills in the Marvel universe (I didn't read the comics but I found out through other sources). And I'd rather not have the wisdom, or lack thereof, that Tony Stark has. In the movies, Tony doesn't exactly consider pros and cons or long-term effects, especially in Age of Ultron. I'd rather have Cap's leadership skills and wisdom than Tony's gadgets.

Plus, Steve's character reminds me a lot of myself, including his progression throughout the movie franchise. I've noticed that I've kind of followed a similar path, in my own small ways, to Cap's.

Of course, while Cap is currently my favorite superhero, my all-time favorite is probably still Spiderman, and nobody is as cool as Spidey. When he's not being rebooted every four years, anyways.

Also, Captain America and Spiderman are both real superheroes. Iron Man is just a really arrogant guy in a robot suit. He's a nicer guy nowadays, but even so...
"Big man in a suit of armor. Take that off, what are you?"
:captamerica:
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In the end, I think Iron Man deserves the most credit. He is just a regular person, and he was able to fight head on with Thor. Captain America was given all of his powers. Iron Man worked for his. Also, I'm sure the movie will somehow make it so Captain America can fight Iron Man, but realistically Iron Man wins no problem. All he needs to do is fly high enough that Cap can't reach him, rain him with missiles so that he cant block with shield, then clean up the mess. Easy. The only thing Cap has over Iron Man is wisdom and a lack of arrogance. There is no real proof that Captain America is a better leader. Realistically, I would much rather have Iron Man telling me what to do than Captain America. His genius would easily beat Captain America's wisdom when it comes to tactics and strategies. But it is just anyone's opinion, and it is cool that you can relate with Cap.
 
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