Remy
Wanted Pirate
lol I'm pretty sure they both are!
I for one am definitely going to support both! Can't wait lol
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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW ~ Pirates of the High Seas/Pirates Online Rewritten
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I for one am definitely going to support both! Can't wait lol
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Shamus The Brute
If you want my own opinion, before this interview was conducted and before the above questions were directly answered...I did have some doubts. *** Clearly though, from the answers given by both game developers, I do see for myself that each project are on their way and have progressed towards creating a suitable home for ex-POTCO players. But, even despite this there still remains "unanswered" questions that directly need addressed from both sides if this doubt that I am holding onto is to be completely shaken loose.
For instance, I feel that for POTHS ('Pirates of the High Seas'), for the amount of promises they have continually assured everyone - that within this amount of time since POTCO's closing (Sept. 19, 2013) - that more "evidence" would have been presented in support of the actual development applied towards POTHS for public doubt to be completely obliterated. However, it is of my understanding that a decision has been made to provide a legitimate game demo of POTHS which should really place the majority of the nail in the coffin as far as I am concerned. In addition to that, if the rest of the POTCO community was made more aware of the POTCO connection (if any) of the other developers whom are responsible for POTHS (besides Zachary/Edward), then in my own opinion - that would be beneficial to the project as well.
For another remake ('Pirates Online Rewritten'), the same exact sharing about "other" developers' POTCO connection is true for myself - as a natural doubter - to understand. Also, I would have liked to receive a more convincing explanation from another remake development team that the specific EMAIL they had received from "Disney Interactive Services" is 100% legit. (For more information, please review the following post: https://piratesforums.co/threads/potco-will-never-die-campaign.8963/page-2#post-151811)
While it has been noted that the claim pertaining to this email is legitimate and there has been also some slight justification that the same type of green light provided by Disney has been extended to players associated with "ToonTown Rewritten," what people most need to understand is that the situation affecting ToonTown within it's last days was not so pure and innocent (hackers had infiltrated that game more so than POTCO, which is saying something there).
Therefore, relying upon the word and the efforts of ToonTown Rewritten is not a good enough reason...in my own opinion. In addition to the above, I feel also that another remake developers have quite the challenge/burden of proof when it comes to solving the "python" hacking problem that POTCO had to face - within it's last days. I know many of you have heard my ranting on this before, but the thing I had learned the most about the issue (and those whom had the ability to manipulate POTCO's coding) is that there existed many loopholes as a result of POTCO's development to where those with such knowledge may still be able to get away with murder even with the launching of a new and improved, another remake project. However, I do understand now that another remake is taking a serious look at this issue and are doing all they can to assure that fairness ultimately achieved through the development of another remake. But, still...this issue will remain a considerable challenge regardless for another remake when you consider the fact that much coding was "Edgemalley-ized" and plastered all over the internet, easily accessible for the average Joe to implement to his/her own advantage.
I hope this doesn't happen. For one thing, it would provide reassurance for someone (or a gaming project) to "capitalize" upon those things to which POTCO was not intended to provide, during actual game play.
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Blade1
Site Founder
I wasn't going to ask questions like this Shamus because it's really early in development for another remake, but your recent post reminded me of it. I started thinking about some things hackers were going after. On top of purely trying to annoy people, there were a large crowd of the hackers that wanted the discontinued items, old bodies, and founder tags. I read that old bodies are going to be the main selection, so it seems that should be settled. So my concern, or question for the another remake team would be, would it be smarter to have each pirate tag be equal as far having no "Founders" and removing discontinued items from the game, unless they were available to all? Not a huge deal what so ever and I believe another remake will ultimately attract a much more laid back, game loving crowd, but I was curious because it provoked people in the past.
John Yellowrat
Notorious Pirate
I'm gonna play whichever one feels the most like POTCO I guess.
Kate Ironhawk
Honorable Pirate
Great to hear
Bort Greasegorb
Pirate Lord
Ah, that's true. I'd personally prefer a piece of clothing. Weapons are meant to be more of collectables, so it's best if all of them are found fair and square in loot.
Hector Pillageparr6785
Dockworker
Ah, well this interview was very interesting, as a developer for Pirates online Rewritten, I hope we become allies and help each other out. There is not much I can give away about Pirates Online Rewritten, however we will have a live Online Multiplayer Server open VERY SOON. Fair winds and good luck mates!
jzfredskins
Wiki Staff
No, we have a server working, but we still don't have a world to play in.
We are still a few months away from releasing it to the public. 
Captain Sharktooth
Notorious Pirate
jzfredskins Edward Shipstealer Are you guys going to have some sort of leaderboard/directory for your games?
Zachary
Honorable Pirate
jzfredskins
Wiki Staff
Probably not at first. We are putting 100% of our resources into developing the game so we can have it out as soon as possible. The main website is still being worked on and at this moment we don't know if we are going to have those features. If we do decide to add them in, it will be much later.
Danny DarkCastle
Buccaneer
Will you be able to play on your old pirates or are you going to have to make a new one?
Irene
Digital Artist
Of course you will have to make a new one, neither of the projects is affiliated with Disney and their data.
Blade1
Site Founder
This will be a totally new game, so you will not be able to recover your characters. You'll have to start back at Lv.1.
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Shamus The Brute
@Zachary and @TheGleamings
Would either of you be open to listen to & to respond to a proposal that I have? *If agreed, this "proposal" would have to be implemented before either another remake or POTHS went live. (The proposal touches upon a few of the responses the both of you have given within this thread's 'interview').
Thank Ye both kindly for your time in the past & I hope, currently now & in the future as well.
Would either of you be open to listen to & to respond to a proposal that I have?
*If agreed, this "proposal" would have to be implemented before either another remake or POTHS went live. (The proposal touches upon a few of the responses the both of you have given within this thread's 'interview'). Thank Ye both kindly for your time in the past & I hope, currently now & in the future as well.
Wait, so we're only allowed two accounts? I was planning on creating a few more so I could have a couple founders. Also, I was gonna double log to try and get crew rep if none of my friends were online. I don't wanna start an argument, but I'm just wondering, what's wrong with having more than two?
Blade1
Site Founder
I believe their intention was to not create too many inactive pirates at first, as well as provoke "character and account passing". I could be wrong, but I think it's a good strategy. As far as double logging, I would imagine that would still be possible - Hopefully someone from the staff can officially give you an answer!
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Shamus The Brute
Just to inform everyone (I took some time today to review this 'recent' update) POTHS' funding program - Indiegogo - is slated to begin sometime this month with a now projected goal of only $20k (as opposed to $150k). At this time, the main hurdle which has been claimed to be holding up the Indiegogo launch is the "music" (development) aspect of that game.
For another remake, they seem to be providing (continual) updates as far as the progress made to their "official website" so, I encourage everyone to support not only them within this area but POTHS as well.
In my opinion, an official another remake and POTHS website is what each project needs to attract the attention of (non-POTCO) players and as such, serves as a far more legitimate marketing and advertising tool than any forums platform of their own could provide.
For another remake, they seem to be providing (continual) updates as far as the progress made to their "official website" so, I encourage everyone to support not only them within this area but POTHS as well.
In my opinion, an official
another remake and POTHS website is what each project needs to attract the attention of (non-POTCO) players and as such, serves as a far more legitimate marketing and advertising tool than any forums platform of their own could provide.
Maggie Heartpaine
Pirate Lord
you asked very good questions.(continued from above)
~ HACKING/ACCOUNT STEALING ~
1.) On POTCO, what remained your personal conviction towards the issue of in-game hacking (with 'hacking' referring to the manipulation of POTCO coding/account stealing)?
Pirates of the High Seas (Zachary/Edward Shipstealer):
Honestly the way I look at fixing this issue is to be the hacker. Now I'm not saying that you should hack a game for "testing", but it's a good way of fixing issues. I picked Minecraft as a good game to hack for a couple of reasons. It's popular, it's easy to hack, and it has great support. Every update I would try and find a bug and see where that takes me. I’d use the same code Moder’s do and test out bugs on private servers of mine. From healing hacks to teleportation hacks, I'd look at how Mojang would fix the issue. I've seen a lot of different kinds of patches for hacks but there's one that stood out as a success every time. Everything important being stored server side. With all important information being server side, there is basically no way for the player to manipulate values. They'd have to hack into the server and change the value that way, and the average hacker will not go through the trouble of that. So that is our plan, we hope it will work out for the best and if not, we can always just try and keep up with the holes in our code as they are found.
Both Pirates Online Rewritten and Toontown Rewritten are figuring out this problem. We'll get back to you as soon as possible with that answer.
2.) If you were to witness the same level of hacking on your game as you possibly have on POTCO, will the personal conviction you declare above be the same conviction for you within your game? If yes, in what way will you specifically seek out to assure the follow-through of this conviction to where in-game hacking may not deter the evolutionary success of your game?
If hacking in our game every got as bad as in POTCO, I'd take that as a great disappointment on me. People count on us to provide a fun experience, with them getting mistreated by hackers, that isn't fun! If the amount if hacking ever becomes an issue, we will shut down the servers for a couple of days and completely rewrite all the code with bugs. In Pirates Of The High Seas our promise is hacking will never be an issue.
As we continue to fight hacking, we would think it would not deter Pirates Online Rewritten evolution success, however hacking is the point we are focusing on right now. We do know that there will be some hackers, but we don't intend to have this game with 1 million + players, we just want the game for those who missed Pirates of the Caribbean Online, and those who want to Relive the Legend.
3.) In what way will hackers be dealt with in accordance to your game's (official) rules or terms of service? Who specifically will enforce such rules to where the issue of fairness is achieved?
Hacking will result in a ban. Your account will be shut down without refund. We hope to take down all hackers as they come. Many say "They can just change IPs", and well yeah you are right, but we have another layer of protection now. Since all the attacks and people just switching IPs, we needed another way to block people. We were able to come up with something incredible. Even if you make a new account and change your IP, we still can detect who you are. No worries, it doesn't download anything onto your PC or anything along those lines. It's just some small code on our website. We have been using it on our site and it has been working amazingly to help block those IP-changers.
Our terms of service are still in development, but we think that hacking is the worst thing, and it is certainly not an accident. So if hackers do occur, we would ban them forever.
4.) Has your game taken a stance yet concerning (off-game) account exchange? In your opinion, would such "account trading" that occurs between players impede the future success of your game?
This is up to the player. We do not suggest account sharing unless you 100% trust the person you are sharing your account with. We will do our best to keep your information safe from the person you shared your account with as well, by providing multiple layers of protection.
We would take the same action as above, however, much like Pirates of the Caribbean Online, we would allow those who did trade their account to email in and tell us why.
5.) Will limitations be enforced to where - on your game - an infinite number of player accounts created by the same individual will not be permitted? If no, do you understand that the lack of implementing such limitations permits problematic players an advantage to where they are not 100% held accountable for their in-game actions?
You can create as many accounts as you have emails. Please keep in mind that if you give us false information your account can be shut down until you contact us with the correct information. Also keep in mind that you must pay for Unlimited on every account.
We are still studying how to track their IP addresses to see how many accounts that have been accessed by the IP address, and there will be a 1 month ban for every extra account they access. They are allowed 2 accounts.
~ IN-GAME MAINTENANCE/UPDATES ~
1.) Approximately how many updates do you expect your game to receive within a 6 month period?
We are planning on a couple big bug fixes updates a month, and small bug fixes as bugs are found. We only will release major updates as they are completed, maybe 2-4 major updates in a 6 month period.
Being ex-POTCO players, we know how it feels - we aim for 2, but would certainly do more!
2.) Concerning periods of in-game maintenance, will players' gaming experience on your game be interrupted? Approximately what time(s) will those maintenance periods likely be scheduled?
If a server is down for maintenance the other servers will be up. We will only take down all servers if necessary. If all servers go down, we will try our best to get all of them back up and running to normal status.
Maintenance would simply be adding particular scripts that were pre-meditated. So it shouldn't be any longer than POTCO's; maybe 2 hours.
3.) If problematic maintenance or update issues cause a lapse in overall log-in or game experience, what type of reimbursement or account extension will players receive from the development staff of your game?
If a update causes all servers to be down longer than 12 hours then an extra day will be added into your plan. We do not want to keep players out of our game. We will post updates on the site if this does occur, to keep all of our players up-to-date.
If this is to occur, when the game is back into good experience, we would offer them a famed weapon.
So there you have it.
Whichever project ye do decide to support, there is an important lesson to take from the whole POTCO experience and that is, of course:
(Disclaimer for 'Pirates Online Rewritten,' per James Gleamings: Pirates Online Rewritten is using the game engine Panda3D. Unlike the other games in development, we are doing an exact copy of POTCO's playing experiences. Due to the fact we cannot make profit, free unlimited access is granted and our servers are kindly offered by Toontown Rewritten. We also release Daily Alpha and Savvy Saturday updates on our wiki that you can download). *** Pirates Online Rewritten is not associated in any official way with the Walt Disney Company, its subsidiary the Walt Disney Interactive Media Group, or any additional subsidiaries or affiliates. The characters as well as "Pirates of the Caribbean" are TM and © (copyright) Walt Disney Company, Jerry Bruckheimer Films, and their related entities.
Kate Ironhawk
Honorable Pirate
I'm sorry if it has been repeated before but do we have an estimated date that the rewritten POTC will be issued out to all of those who want to play the game?
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