Is this really the POTCO we all knew?

I can see that you feel this way simply because you never had a POTCO-related forums of your own prior to September 19, 2013. Granted, @Davy Darkrage (and if they were around more often, @Zin or @Treasurer) likely do not have a problem with other forums coming onto the scene I do and that is my personal opinion on the matter given the fact of how difficult the task has always been to bring people closer together on the net towards one common goal/purpose.

Curious, have new forums even considered the thought of what would happen to already established (POTCO-related) forums if a particular effort did accomplish the goals it set out to accomplish and achieve full launch? Wouldn't such success, in-turn, also have a significant impact on those forums which do not endorse specifically one project over any other? With those whom "insist" on implementing new forums, would they even be aware of the implications involved by such decisions (dependent upon the success or failure either way of such efforts)? :confused:

Using the past as a measuring stick, it's of my opinion that very little has been taken into consideration of how such decisions ultimately affect the community as a whole, by-and-large.
Perhaps we have all forgotten that this forums was created when there were already two successful forums websites before this one was created, so for what purpose would this website be if not the exact same as any other forum? I also don't see how this can be recommended by anyone as a "safe haven" so to speak for all pirates, when any argument, sound or not is removed from the forums and in my personal opinion, a forums is a place for discussion and that shouldn't be limited to only the administrator or staff's views and certainly should not remove forms of disagreements.
 
Perhaps we have all forgotten that this forums was created when there were already two successful forums websites before this one was created, so for what purpose would this website be if not the exact same as any other forum? I also don't see how this can be recommended by anyone as a "safe haven" so to speak for all pirates, when any argument, sound or not is removed from the forums and in my personal opinion, a forums is a place for discussion and that shouldn't be limited to only the administrator or staff's views and certainly should not remove forms of disagreements.

I'm sure there are MANY here who remember exactly how this forums came about. Not all of them being staff members either. Regardless, this is one of the original 4 that has survived Disney hanging us all.

You also know that all arguments, as long as they remain argumentative, are allowed here. The word argument means to exchange opinions and views. The point when an argument is not allowed is when flaming and drama enter into it. There is unfortunately a very fine line between the two and once that line is crossed is when the staff will intervene. We do not want to ref any discussion, but once any member has crossed that line, that is what the staff does. You should know VERY WELL about this issue.

Also, we do not want just the staff views/beliefs to be the only things seen here on this forums. That is why as staff we try to STAY OUT of any controversial discussions. When this has happened, Davy has handled the issue himself. You know very well that IF you ever have any problem with ANY staff member here, you can take your problems to him.
 

O.O.: you just seem disappointed.

i can understand your sentiments about the drama, and what you say about the sense of "community" was what i felt at the potco wikia.. but since there was no game to keep the ppl coming back, the community relocated/died.

the only reason why i went to the another remake forums was for the game, but i wasnt going to be a whiny brat if the project didnt come to fruition.

the potco community should have just accepted the fact that the second 'o' is gone. and just adapt to a Pirates Of the Caribbean franchise Community; incorporating ppl who enjoyed anything connected to what Disney created -- whether it be ride, movie, books, games, pirates in general, etc. yet if those ppl have moved on to different things then just 'so be it', and let them gather there or here to discuss whatever with the only credential being "i'm an ex-potco player."
 
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Pirates of the Caribbean Online.


This game meant a lot to us, or did it? Was POTCO really the reason that we enjoyed playing this game so much? Was it the community? The people and the way that this game was run by Disney that made us continue to come back. It has been two years since this game has shut down and since then, we have had several “false prophets” come forth and promise us a rebuild of this game. Is it really worth it though?

When POTCO closed down, I was still a very active member of the POTCO community on this forums and others, but as time went on I continued on with different games and stuck with some of the favorite pirates throughout the years, yes I loved this game just as much as you all did. I simply knew that all good things must come to an end and decided not to back any of the POTCO remakes. I frankly, did not want to see POTCO come back by any other hand than Disney’s.

This community has been lost. As the day goes on, I continue to see less and less posts and less and less people logging on. The only thing people log on now is for updates on the remakes or forum games. This used to be a place for the community to stick together and play newer games. So that we could remember the old game that brought us together and bring that comradery to other games. However, this place has been corrupted. This is no longer a forums for the ex-potco community but a community for remakes. I cannot be the only player that feels that a remake should just be left alone. Even if someone creates it. (Which is highly unlikely imo) It will still close again. Nobody is going to make POTCO last a lifetime. It simply isn’t going to happen. None of the crews recreating the game have really done as good a job as ToonTown Rewritten either. They knew where to start, they have a team dedicated to the community and to the game. We only have developers not interested in communicating with us. They want to hide their work and work in secrecy. They are against an open source project because they don’t want someone to “steal their work” or they have fear of hackers even though they have claimed that their current technology is “unhackable”

Is anyone else tired of the drama associated with these remakes? Whilst they bring them to our beloved community board of piratesforums.co I thoroughly enjoyed coming here to learn about new games and talk amongst fellow pirates when Pirates Online Rewritten was forced to post on their own forums. What made the stance change? I don’t wish to insight drama amongst myself so I have posted this on another account and I do hope that all moderators with access to my information would be decent enough to keep it a secret. If they would like to address issues with me specifically then to take them to a PM rather than revealing myself here.


I would like to use this as a start of a discussion as to the benefits of allowing POTCO to be put to rest and this community going back to talking about new games and working together as a community rather than waiting on a remake that will eventually close just as POTCO did.

Although nobody may have seen me in POTCO, I actually was a player, and although I did forget my pirate name, I also did tend to stay away from others and do my own thing. I can remember that on the last day of POTCO, I had played it in the morning, then came back after school, and I had nearly cried when my login didn't work, even after trying several times. The game itself, even before I got a Pirate's Forums account, I always had POTCO on my mind, just on the edge, and I had kept on making small references, and I missed, was it called, Raven's Island? Raven's Cove? I don't remember, but I hope you know what I'm talking about. I had always felt bad for the ghosts on the island, and even they always killed me, They always had a very special place in my heart. Just think, You're a ghost on the island, and you have almost no friends, and when you see a living person, you want them to be like you, so that you could be friends longer, without the worry of losing them, so you attack the live person, AKA you. I can remember one of the things they say to you before they kill you: 'Are you a ghost?' I still miss them. I miss the original game so much, that I keep on getting games like 'Lego Pirates of the Caribbean' and a few other games I have lost my faith in, because I was looking for something that would give me more memories, but all the games are based off the movies, and don't let the gamer create their own plot. You always have to follow the story in those games, while in POTCO, your plot could be making a crew, exploring, ect. In fact, I have a game about Lord of the Rings, and whenever I play it, since when you aren't following the story you can do your own thing, I will to a place where is enemies, and I'll fight them, with my wooden sword, pretending that I'm my POTCO character, fighting the undead once again.
 
I'm not taking sides in this debate. But I will admit, if another remake had never created their own forums, I wouldn't be here. Infact, it was the another remake forums that got me into forums.

Also, another reason I'm glad these projects have other forums is so that these forums aren't spammed with questions about TLOPO.
 
I would like to use this as a start of a discussion as to the benefits of allowing POTCO to be put to rest and this community going back to talking about new games and working together as a community rather than waiting on a remake that will eventually close just as POTCO did
Also, another reason I'm glad these projects have other forums is so that these forums aren't spammed with questions about TLOPO.

however -- once/if the game is opened regardless of alpha, beta, or omega -- wouldn't the game have its own section like MC, SWTOR, or LOTRO seeing that it's a "game?" it would be odd, in my own understanding, for TLOPO, another remake previously, or any other game trying to bring back POTCO not to be discussed within a pirates forum since those remakes are products of the potco gaming community. it would be similar to ignoring that cousin at a family reunion or trying to bar that relative from entering the reunion at the start.

it's going to be difficult to put 'it' to rest, especially when there are certain players of extreme influence connected to so many things "pirates."

** my suggestion is that if you don't like the content that's being spammed or just simply brought up, don't subscribe or follow it. aren't there settings for which you don't have to see said content?​
 
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however -- once/if the game is opened regardless of alpha, beta, or omega -- wouldn't the game have its own section like MC, SWTOR, or LOTRO seeing that it's a "game?" it would be odd, in my own understanding, for TLOPO, another remake previously, or any other game trying to bring back POTCO not to be discussed within a pirates forum since those remakes are products of the potco gaming community. it would be similar to ignoring that cousin at a family reunion or trying to bar that relative from entering the reunion at the start.

** my suggestion is that if you don't like the content that's being spammed or just simply brought up, don't subscribe or follow it. aren't there settings for which you don't have to see said content?​
One section would not be enough for the amount of questions they most likely would receive once the game opens, and how much questios they are already receiving. Also, what I mean by "spammed by TLOPO related stuff" is that everything in the Recent Activity would have to do with "how do I get a key" "I wanna key!" "this happened to me while playing alpha!" and so forth. You would not really see much of anything else.
 
Below is just my own opinion so everyone please...don't take offense nor take this personally (as what I 'want' to say reflects my own interpretation, personality, and philosophy which might not remain in agreement with others).

*I basically think it's incredibly arrogant and stupid to implement and introduce a completely new forums when said game/project (whatever it is) which is being represented is not even in full launch yet, therefore providing NO guarantee that said project will come to pass. For what it's worth, that is the biggest issue I have (and have had) this whole entire time since POTCO has been shuttered (no matter who is responsible for said idea of a completely new forums). I don't know how to explain this any more clearer. You're free to disagree with this but to be blunt...this is my own opinion on the matter no matter the justification which is given.

Now, the "forums" issue is just 1/2 of the problem (in my own eyes) as to the direction we have currently been going. I would like to reiterate that simply because I don't want this particular thread to go entirely off-topic from the purpose of this thread just to voice-in something pertaining to the influx of other forums. However, I do recognize that my own opinion is somewhat bias regardless and I accept that but even if I was not a part of this forums here...I still don't think it's wise for so many different places for people to communicate their POTCO interest/love towards because in hindsight what is most needed is centralization rather than decentralization in my opinion given OUR particular circumstance.

(Note: As much as I am aware, each of the POTCO-related forums were created after POTCO was fully released and not 'before')!:piratemickey:
 
Below is just my own opinion so everyone please...don't take offense nor take this personally (as what I 'want' to say reflects my own interpretation, personality, and philosophy which might not remain in agreement with others).

*I basically think it's incredibly arrogant and stupid to implement and introduce a completely new forums when said game/project (whatever it is) which is being represented is not even in full launch yet, therefore providing NO guarantee that said project will come to pass. For what it's worth, that is the biggest issue I have (and have had) this whole entire time since POTCO has been shuttered (no matter who is responsible for said idea of a completely new forums). I don't know how to explain this any more clearer. You're free to disagree with this but to be blunt...this is my own opinion on the matter no matter the justification which is given.

Now, the "forums" issue is just 1/2 of the problem (in my own eyes) as to the direction we have currently been going. I would like to reiterate that simply because I don't want this particular thread to go entirely off-topic from the purpose of this thread just to voice-in something pertaining to the influx of other forums. However, I do recognize that my own opinion is somewhat bias regardless and I accept that but even if I was not a part of this forums here...I still don't think it's wise for so many different places for people to communicate their POTCO interest/love towards because in hindsight what is most needed is centralization rather than decentralization in my opinion given OUR particular circumstance.

(Note: As much as I am aware, each of the POTCO-related forums were created after POTCO was fully released and not 'before')!:piratemickey:
I think you either refuse to acknowledge or simply don't realize that there is simply put a reason that these other forums for other projects have come about. If everyone thought that this was a suitable place to discuss their different pirate related discussions there wouldn't be an influx of several new forums. While I am a member here, I openly disagree with many of the moderation practices and the viewpoints of these forums. While many people here do find this a suitable place to fill their piratey needs, I do not. I am not the only one that feels this way. It all really just comes down to preference.
 
I think you either refuse to acknowledge or simply don't realize that there is simply put a reason that these other forums for other projects have come about. If everyone thought that this was a suitable place to discuss their different pirate related discussions there wouldn't be an influx of several new forums. While I am a member here, I openly disagree with many of the moderation practices and the viewpoints of these forums. While many people here do find this a suitable place to fill their piratey needs, I do not. I am not the only one that feels this way. It all really just comes down to preference.
Best of luck to ye then, Tom. Let me know how things work out for you...
 
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