Weapons Jack Sparrow's Blade Discussion

What do you think of this Blade?

  • The Blade is Balanced and Awesome.

    Votes: 55 59.1%
  • The Blade is Unbalanced and Terrible.

    Votes: 24 25.8%
  • Undecided.

    Votes: 14 15.1%

  • Total voters
    93
Jack Sparrow's Blade Pros & Cons
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My personal thoughts:
It shouldn't be more powerful than Legendary CURSED weapons. I think the blade should be nerfed...
- Lower attack to 70.
- Lower Critical Strike down to Rank 3.
- Lower Powerful to rank 3.
- Remove Drain Health.

I definitely agree with you that its overpowered. However, I would not nerf it as much as you did. Cleave Boost is fine, and you didn't suggest a change with that either. I like the Drain Health how it is. The damage definitely needs to be lowered. I'd say put damage at 80, completely remove Powerful, and leave everything else the same. That way I feel like the Critical Strike 5 is more warranted, plus I just like how the "Jack Sparrow's Blade" has a best of something, especially Critical Strike, as the character has the potential to take down the very best, but not always does, its unexpected.
 
I changed my mind slightly.

Attack: 80
Critical Strike: Rank 4
Rolling Attack: Rank 4
Cleave Boost: +3

Drain Health doesn't really make sense, rolling attack does, Jack rolls around like an armadillo all the time. Also Critical Strike 5 might be excessive.
 
I don't want to burst anyone's bubble here but has anyone actually looted this blade already? Has it been confirmed that you can find this blade even ingame right now?
 
I hope nobody gets upset with me for saying so... but I know the sword is incredibly OP and now objectively the most powerful in the game but I’m super excited for it and I would love to find it. I don’t play as much as I used to so that's probably a factor in why I don’t mind it being so powerful. But wow, I would love to find it and I’m really excited to see what the other legendaries are!!
 
I hope nobody gets upset with me for saying so... but I know the sword is incredibly OP and now objectively the most powerful in the game but I’m super excited for it and I would love to find it. I don’t play as much as I used to so that's probably a factor in why I don’t mind it being so powerful. But wow, I would love to find it and I’m really excited to see what the other legendaries are!!
I wish more people had that mentality. Given above mentioned situation people will cry whenever we get a new item that is better than what we already have ingame.
 
I wish more people had that mentality. Given above mentioned situation people will cry whenever we get a new item that is better than what we already have ingame.
You misunderstand. It is not because "it's better," the main drawback of this weapon is that it essentially nullifies a need to do Raven's at all, any pirate can get it (mostly), and that its stats make other blades look like a joke.

We do not need "stronger" weapons, there are more than enough in-game that practically shred enemies to bits with a laughable amount of effort. On top of this, any thought it would make bosses easier is definitely not suitable at all. Bosses are meant to be tough, but weapons like this further make the current bosses weaker (except Smasho, who would still curb stomp you).

My advice? Knock down that Powerful, and drop Crit to 4. If a non-cursed blade makes the entire cursed blade set look like a joke, then it has gone far off the rails.

Oh, and tie the Black Pearl quest into the blade. Surely it'd make getting the blade much more of a pain.
 
I appreciate you responding point-by-point. It's a step up from the usual quality of discussion on these forums.

(from skill points page on my level 45 alt pirate)

A standard cutlass combo without any boosts to combo attacks or bladestorm, with full investment in cleave, flourish, thrust, and bladestorm, does a base level of 2973 damage at its higher margin

A standard cutlass combo from Cursed Blade of Yore with the same skill point distribution does a base 3549 damage.

Rank three critical strike - per my testing of thunderspine - is likely a 30% chance of a critical hit for each of the weapon's strikes. It follows that a rank 5 critical strike would then be a 50% chance of a critical hit. A critical hit does twice the damage of a normal hit. This is effectively a 50% damage buff to all attacks over a long period.

(per Charles Warmonk) every "Powerful" skill increase is a 5% damage buff to the sword's attack - bringing Jack Sparrow's Blade's actual attack to 103.2, about 10% more than 93 (technically it's only 10 percentage points better if we use a 100% scale.. but the difference between that and the actual value is within 1%).

Applying the buffs from Powerful rank 4 and critical strike rank 5 to the standard cutlass combo's damage of 2973, we find that the damage from full combo + bladestorm for Jack Sparrow's Blade totals to 4841.

I didn't bother factoring in the cleave boost.

Even without the cleave boost, Jack Sparrow's Blade is 27% more powerful than Cursed Blade of Yore

And with rank 3 health drain, 11% of that damage will come back to the player. Since players attack much faster than NPCs do, this added ability makes the player nigh-unkillable just as it does on World Eater Blade. This is the best sword in the game.

I concede that a sword like Krakenslayer or Leviathan still has its place in scenarios like farming the gold room with friends (though it's worth noting that most looting takes place at bosses now... and the majority of people who do loot in the gold room prefer to simply use grenades by themselves than broadswords in a group). But isn't a sword that retires every other single-target sword in the game enough of a problem already?

Drain health is only "unnecessary" because players are overpowered relative to all NPCs except a select few, as you pointed out. Surely the answer to this problem can't be to make players even more obscenely powerful with additions such as this. Against very formidable enemies or other players in PVP, that drain health makes a tremendous difference - as anyone with WEB will attest to.

My point about Pirate Blade remains. The reason no one expends the effort to get it is because the costs to getting it significantly outweigh its benefits. People who unlock the sword do impress me, but like anyone, I have to wonder why they thought it was worth it.

FYI, the imbalance in power between the legendary cursed has stopped people from finding certain legendary sabres. Why do you think there are only two Ruby Curses out there? Finding one is very impressive, but the sword's power pales in comparison to Sapphire - which is much easier to get and consequentially has been looted dozens of times. It's a simple cost/benefit analysis.

I take back my final comment. Not everyone I disagree with is suffering from cognitive dissonance. However, I do believe that someone can not both understand how powerful this sword is and sincerely think that it is balanced.

EDIT: I've invested too much time and energy into this conversation at this point and need to stop and move on. Thanks for hearing me out.
As far as Ruby Curses, I think it’s just because Cic is so annoying to get to, while FS has every boss you want close together. Also, Cic’s high health. I doubt it’s the blade.

But the combo evidence you gave is convincing. I would be alright with a slight nerf, I just don’t want it to be totally wiped. I’m personally okay with it being the best (I know you aren’t), but it shouldn’t be by such a margin. And really, it should have a lower drop rate than the LCs.

Maybe BP Quest prerequisite is something to look into - that would seem to solve all these issues, IMO, while encouraging the game’s forgotten main story.
 
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Honestly, just removing the powerful rank 4 entirely would balance this thing out just fine. It's nice having a few more drain health swords around although I have no idea why Jack Sparrow would possess that ability.
It'll explain why Jack Sparrow never seems to age in the POTC movies.
 
Because hes jack sparrow mate and jack sparrow gets everything he wants in the movies so why not make it that way in a video game
I definitely agree with you that its overpowered. However, I would not nerf it the same as you did. Cleave Boost is fine, and you didn't suggest a change with that either. I like the Drain Health how it is. The damage definitely needs to be lowered. I'd say put damage at 80, completely remove Powerful, and leave everything else the same. That way I feel like the Critical Strike 5 is more warranted, plus I just like how the "Jack Sparrow's Blade" has a best of something, especially Critical Strike, as the character has the potential to take down the very best, but not always does, its unexpected.
tbh @Charles Warmonk as for you to nate Why dont do you just do me a favor and quit your whining to the devs im pretty sure that 100% this weapon isnt going to be nerfed and i can tell you right now once i get my hands on this weapon i will Destroy everything in my path :) Just be greatful for what the game devs give us because they are the ones who put their backs into it to remake this game and work it :mad:
 
I definitely agree with you that its overpowered. However, I would not nerf it the same as you did. Cleave Boost is fine, and you didn't suggest a change with that either. I like the Drain Health how it is. The damage definitely needs to be lowered. I'd say put damage at 80, completely remove Powerful, and leave everything else the same. That way I feel like the Critical Strike 5 is more warranted, plus I just like how the "Jack Sparrow's Blade" has a best of something, especially Critical Strike, as the character has the potential to take down the very best, but not always does, its unexpected.
OK so how about this the both of you @Charles Warmonk @Nate Dreadshot How about you both quit whining about this sword so the devs dont have to nerf it for the people who actually wanna test this sword out MAYBE LIKE I DO so quit your whining because these devs work hard day and night to deliver this content and tbh warmonk all you do is whine complain and think your the owner of this game which really isnt even true seeing I finessed you in that race and seeing you still cant get over it and act like a little kid just because i beat you in a stupid race as for the main topic perhaps you guys shouldnt whine as much seeing all the effort these developers put into the game.
 
OK so how about this the both of you @Charles Warmonk @Nate Dreadshot How about you both quit whining about this sword so the devs dont have to nerf it for the people who actually wanna test this sword out MAYBE LIKE I DO so quit your whining because these devs work hard day and night to deliver this content and tbh warmonk all you do is whine complain and think your the owner of this game which really isnt even true seeing I finessed you in that race and seeing you still cant get over it and act like a little kid just because i beat you in a stupid race as for the main topic perhaps you guys shouldnt whine as much seeing all the effort these developers put into the game.
Were 3 whole replies really necessary?
 
OK so how about this the both of you @Charles Warmonk @Nate Dreadshot How about you both quit whining about this sword so the devs dont have to nerf it for the people who actually wanna test this sword out MAYBE LIKE I DO so quit your whining because these devs work hard day and night to deliver this content and tbh warmonk all you do is whine complain and think your the owner of this game which really isnt even true seeing I finessed you in that race and seeing you still cant get over it and act like a little kid just because i beat you in a stupid race as for the main topic perhaps you guys shouldnt whine as much seeing all the effort these developers put into the game.
I feel like some of these points may be valid, and that I agree and disagree with some of this. However, I personally feel that the way you presented your point was aggressive to the point where it kind of invalidated everything you were trying to say.

We all agree and disagree on different things. I disagree on a lot of things with Charles, yeah sure. But that doesn’t mean I won’t be respectful when/if I voice that. I feel like this nature of response isn’t condusive to maintaining a respectful and positive atmosphere and certainly won’t boost a sense of positive constructive criticism. Let’s all try to keep our heads on and accept that we all have different feelings and thoughts, but that doesn’t make someone else wrong for having those thoughts or feelings. Even if you disagree with them! Everyone feels their own opinion is the most important, including mine. Let’s respect that, and move forward with this accordingly?

Keep on keepin’ on, pirates :)!
 
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