I like the idea personally, but
@Shamus The Brute raises a valid point. He never stated that the money would go to the developers, however the idea of TLOPO making money or players of TLOPO making money has always been a controversial issue among the community, as we are treading new legal ground in terms of the game.
Secondly, I think it's incredibly daft and naive of you to lambast him for voicing his "not-so-needed" opinion. You have absolutely no right to determine who has opinions that matter and opinions that don't. The world doesn't work that way.
Thirdly, you have no way to determine whether he would have signed up or not to the competition, and so stating that he won't be is either a mistake, or you wouldn't allow him to compete if he did wish to enter which immediately brings into question the legitimacy of this contest, which just casts more shade onto this.
Fourthly, TLOPO is not in the position of "nearly every online game," and so trying to draw comparisons is counterproductive. Most games where people place wagers are not fan-made recreations being supported by people investing their lives into developing it, who don't have time to fight potential legal battles.
Fifthly, I'd be curious to know how you determined that his mindset was detrimental, given that he raises a single, valid point? I assume it's detrimental by your own account because as you state after, he tried to "make this into a forums post" (which it already is, you even say so yourself.) Not only is that reasoning that you employ flawed, but the forums, by definition, are a place where we communicate our opinions and ideas. You are contributing zero, and I would say actively taking away from the purpose of the forums by dismissing potential criticism.
Sixthly, what do you mean by "but I'll pass"? I'm asking because he didn't given you an option for anything but rather posed a question of his own.
Frankly this whole response was flawed, and I find it laughable that you dismiss someone for having scruples. I wish you good luck with your tournament, but if you can't take criticism, then the forums isn't the place for you.
EDIT: Given that Shamus is also a site founder, it shouldn't be surprising or used as an insult that he "sits at his computer all day and lunges away at his keyboard." That is just being devoted to the forums and trying to make it better, as was the case here.
He never stated that the money would go to the developers, however the idea of TLOPO making money or players of TLOPO making money has always been a controversial issue among the community, as we are treading new legal ground in terms of the game.
It has been stated by the team, numerous times, in fact, that they are not allowed to profit off of their project. In my original post, it was clearly mentioned the money would be awarded to the
winning teams. This clearly does not violate the ToS, and he knew that.
Secondly, I think it's incredibly daft and naive of you to lambast him for voicing his "not-so-needed" opinion. You have absolutely no right to determine who has opinions that matter and opinions that don't. The world doesn't work that way.
This humored me to say the least. His intentions were very clear, coming in here to start an issue with my post that obviously violated
nothing. I do have a right, actually, because this post wasn't intended to be controversial, I was only putting the word out. I appreciate your attempt to educate me on how the world works, but I suggest learning to crawl before you can walk. You don't know me, so maybe it's daft and naive of
you to assume such a thing.
Thirdly, you have no way to determine whether he would have signed up or not to the competition, and so stating that he won't be is either a mistake, or you wouldn't allow him to compete if he did wish to enter which immediately brings into question the legitimacy of this contest, which just casts more shade onto this.
Shade? I don't see any on my end. The only shade I see is your strive to white knight him while being ignorant to his true intentions of replying to my post. I have knowledge that he doesn't play the game, so I
did have a way of determining whether or not he would have signed up for the competition. In fact, he also mentioned it himself, "
and as soon as I can acquire something bigger than this phone (because I am not on a 'computer' all day), I think I will decide to play TLOPO"
Fourthly, TLOPO is not in the position of "nearly every online game," and so trying to draw comparisons is counterproductive. Most games where people place wagers are not fan-made recreations being supported by people investing their lives into developing it, who don't have time to fight potential legal battles.
That is exactly one of the main issues when it comes to this type of mindset you're giving off. TLOPO is not in the position of nearly every online game, yes, that is very much so. Events like
these are what draws the community in, and frankly, while the community population is slowly on the rise, many players are left with nothing to do at level 50. This is the first community-wide PvP event, with money as an incentive. Can it get better than this in the game's current state? Probably not. In case you already forgot while reading this,
the money is coming voluntarily from members of the community. Theoretically, I could have done this without gathering attention from the community and developers and just asked every PvPer I know to participate, and this whole thing could have went down without the team knowing. Why would I do that, when I can clearly bring people together for a good time? Drawing comparisons is counterproductive? Do you have any idea of how the developers look at other games for inspiration? I'm going to assume you don't, but that's alright. I'd get into specifics about how this violates nothing of the ToS, but you were already put in your place by a moderator and a developer.
Fifthly, I'd be curious to know how you determined that his mindset was detrimental, given that he raises a single, valid point? I assume it's detrimental by your own account because as you state after, he tried to "make this into a forums post" (which it already is, you even say so yourself.) Not only is that reasoning that you employ flawed, but the forums, by definition, are a place where we communicate our opinions and ideas. You are contributing zero, and I would say actively taking away from the purpose of the forums by dismissing potential criticism.
I don't think it takes more than an average level of intellectuality along with a decent knowledge of sarcasm to note that both his first and third reply were passive aggressive toward my original post. If you failed to catch this, well, you fill in the rest.
Indeed, I did say this was a forums post, but you also failed to connect the part where I said, "
where you sit at your computer all day and lunge away at your keyboard"
meaning the post wasn't intended for his sarcasm, it was intended to announce the first community-wide PvP event that is taking place. If I am "contributing zero" and "actively taking away from the purpose of the forums", then all of the submissions I've received so far must mean nothing, and hints that you might just be against an event that brings players together. His "single, valid point" has already been dismissed, so we won't delve any further into that.
Sixthly, what do you mean by "but I'll pass"? I'm asking because he didn't given you an option for anything but rather posed a question of his own.
Meaning I was not interested in debating something I already knew he had invalid thoughts on. Yet here I am, replying to
you in order to educate you in.. English, I guess? Since nothing in my reply was misleading.
Frankly this whole response was flawed, and I find it laughable that you dismiss someone for having scruples. I wish you good luck with your tournament, but if you can't take criticism, then the forums isn't the place for you.
Now that I've explained everything for you, hopefully you've changed your mind on how "flawed" and "laughable" it was to dismiss what was so obviously a passive aggressive attempt to go back and forth on a post that wasn't intended for such actions.
EDIT: Given that Shamus is also a site founder, it shouldn't be surprising or used as an insult that he "sits at his computer all day and lunges away at his keyboard." That is just being devoted to the forums and trying to make it better, as was the case here.
Engaging in senseless keyboard wars and nit picking certain things are not my forté, but to each their own. Seeing as you directly quoted me, I'm glad we've at least agreed on something here.