Sorry for the double post. Replying to more questions here:
is there going to be a fix for the launcher issue regarding the error that you get when trying to download a phase file? i tried downloading one of them from the browser and put it in the default folder but when i open the launcher the launcher replaces the file i downloaded with a new phase file
We recently switched around a lot with our servers on the back-end. When we were booting up, we had similar issues. If you're STILL encountering those issues now, try one of the following:
1. Go to your TLOPO folder - usually in C:/Program Files (x86), but you may have installed it elsewhere. Go into the "resources" and delete the corresponding phase file that is listed in the error on your launcher.
2. Complete fresh reinstall of the game. Uninstall and delete everything in the TLOPO folder. (Make sure to save any screenshots you've taken and move them elsewhere.)
Will the rest of Davy Jones' crew ever get added such as Maccus (hammerhead), Hadras (conch shell head), Ogilvey, Angler etc? The crew is large and they would all be awesome to have.
https://pirates.fandom.com/wiki/Crew_of_the_Flying_Dutchman
Love those dudes. Some of the less famous ones like Ogilvey have their names in-game as random bosses, but the models don't match. I would love to add Maccus and Hadras. Hadras is a personal favorite of mine from the movies. But that'd require a complex model setup, which would be worth it but would take a lot of time. Basically in the same camp as my Flying Dutchman boss encounter response above. HOWEVER, this is also a bit of a grey area because of legality. See my longer response to Shamus below.
How can TLOPO know for certain about such doubt if TLOPO never tries to eliminate such doubt...
but rather instead help...to begin with (but prior to anything occurring)?
As such, what percentage % could TLOPO give towards it's efforts to understand the legalities behind TLOPO sustaining itself? Thank you.
So, some background on how TLOPO is structured. We're split up into various departments. I think this is relevant to answer your question, for context anyway.
- Game Development, programming/coding & where I reside.
- Content Development, where textures, modeling, and smaller pieces of new content are made.
- Storyline, where quest writing and blog post management occur.
- Quality Assurance, where folks test new changes
- A few others like Customer Support, Multimedia/Graphic Design, etc.
Anyway, each of these departments has a department lead, that oversees all aspects of that section of TLOPO. Each lead also is a member of our management board, which essentially acts as the board of executives for TLOPO. I'm not a department lead, so I can't really speak for them or that operation directly, but I can tell you what they do on a basic level.
The management board handles all hiring of new staff members by a vote, pay the brunt of server and maintenance costs, make executive decisions on larger dealings within the project, and, most relevant to your question:
strategizing how to keep TLOPO within Disney's good graces.
I can promise you that they have taken special care to make sure everything within our power is being done to keep TLOPO within Disney's standards. Legal precedents have been discussed, contact has been made informally with some Disney connections about the project, etc.
From what I can understand, Disney has 100% ownership over the POTCO source code, textures, models, animations, and basically anything that makes up the game. Read the "License and Restrictions" of the original POTCO terms of use on the wiki:
https://piratesonline.fandom.com/wiki/Terms_of_Use
That is air-tight. What we are doing directly goes against the terms we all agreed to when originally playing POTCO. You know it, I know it, the whole community knows it, and Disney knows it.
I'm sorry, but I do not think there is anything else to be done.
I skimmed your Revive POTCO thread. Meaning no offense by this, it was rather long and I'm short on time, so I did not read closely. From what I understand, you want us to pursue changing copyright law? I doubt we'd have any grounds to do so, since, as I said above, Disney has ownership of basically every tiny detail of the game.
As such, what percentage % could TLOPO give towards it's efforts to understand the legalities behind TLOPO sustaining itself? Thank you.
Do you mean monetarily? I can't speak to whether or not that'd be wise since it isn't up to me. I do not fund the project monetarily. We could, in theory, hire a lawyer for a consultation on this matter, but given how clearly Disney stated their terms, as I mentioned above, and the legal precedent around similar projects being shut down, I rather doubt a lawyer could do anything for us.
In short, I think the best course of action is for us to keep moving forward as we have been, with the following ground rules:
- Staying family-friendly, with active moderation and restricted chat to uphold this standard.
- This includes a zero-tolerance policy for sharing people's personal information ("doxing").
- Minimal uses of Disney branding. We've removed all POTC skull iconography from the game (with the exception of the GM tag, which is a point of contention within staff as it is)
- I say minimal because we still have Jack Sparrow and other movie characters, as well as movie music that was used in-game.
- Moving our domain to tlopo.com, so it seems less like we're trying to pass off as "piratesonline.com" and leech possible Disney traffic.
- Avoiding referring to ourselves as "Pirates Online," as that was the Disney game. We are TLOPO, a remake that has no relation to Disney or the POTC brand officially.
- Making sure no new content added to the game uses ideas, concepts, or visuals from the films.
- This means no Silent Mary, Captain Salazar, Angelica, Mermaids (with the specific design used in OST, that is), Whitecap Bay, Poseidon's Trident, Henry Turner/Carina Smyth, Syrena/Philip, etc. I could keep going, but you get the point.
- One exception: The Kraken and/or Davy Jones. Considering Disney has resources, animations, and code remnants for the pair within the POTCO client, we consider that fair game.
- This is NOT a confirmation that we're working on the Kraken. In fact, it's quite the opposite right now. No work has been done on the Kraken, but we do have Disney's original animations and models from their various different attempts at making the beastie a reality.
- I suppose another exception would be Singapore, since it's a real geographical location. However, we'd have to make sure we don't rip off the movie completely if we do add it. And we wouldn't be able to have Sao Feng or his bathhouse. Again, this isn't a confirmation that we're working on this. We aren't. I'm speaking in hypotheticals.
- Explicit terminology on our main page and social media stating we are a free fan remake.
- Explicitly releasing Disney from any liability as per our Terms of Service.
- Never charging players for anything or profiting off the game in ANY way, be that YouTube revenue, in-game or in-site advertisements.
- Staying small and off of major gaming platforms like Steam as to not be in direct competition with any officially licensed Disney video games.
- Having semi-regular, friendly contact with certain individuals who have advocated on our behalf. I won't go into more detail for privacy reasons.
- Making security our top priority.
- Minimal personal information being shared within our system.
- Encrypted and secure password and account information storage.
- I'm not the expert here. If you, @Shamus The Brute, or anyone else wants a larger explanation, I'm sure one of our many users of the @The Crew account could further explain.
To be clear, none of this guarantees that Disney won't shut us down at any given second. But we're doing everything we can, and are very meticulous about it.
WELL, that has certainly been quite the essay. Didn't intend it to be that long. And this will be the last I'll say on this matter in this thread. This discussion is already quite active elsewhere, and if you,
@Shamus The Brute, have any further questions regarding how to approach this remake from a legal standpoint, I recommend using your own RevivePOTCO thread and tagging myself, OR making a new thread entirely. I do not want to derail this discussion, so instead, I'm going to focus on technical or misc. questions that are posted in here from now on.
I've tried to answer every question I can in this thread. If I haven't responded to you, it's because it's not my field of expertise and I wouldn't be very insightful on that subject (ex: critical chance).