It's ignorant to say they haven't been harshly divided. There are 2 main servers now: Toontown Rewritten and Toontown Infinite. There has been a server war going on since early 2014. Everyone talks about which is better, TTR or TTI. It's not as worse as it was when Toontown Infinite would just hack other servers, but it's still pretty big. We don't want our source code to be public. We only want one server, not even little private servers, one big server.
You are not the only voice of the community though, that is the problem. TLOPO has already expressed that it has no interest in what the community has to say, and has already failed that point. I do not forsee TLOPO keeping the community in it's mindset when running a POTCO emulator, there is not a server "war" I don't think anyone is being damaged by having more than one ToonTown server open. It allows the burden to be spread out amongst two servers, and allows people to play which server they feel has better leadership.
Do not put words in our mouths. We have never said that. We do consider everything the community says but you must remember, we are players too. We aren't just running and developing the server. We want to play it too. We want to implement what WE want as well and that's the least we could get as we're bringing your game back. However, it looks like we're just slaves that don't deserve any say... or at least that's what you guys want. I'm not saying there is a server war or will be but after all our hard work, we don't want just anyone to have it and just go make their own server without permission. Also, saying the community can help more if it's open source isn't a good pro, because they can already do that. They could apply as a developer or suggest things.
I am not putting words into anyone's mouth. I am telling you the expressions in which you made in your thread TLOPO, that it is the way several community members feel. So, you are saying that you want to claim all this work to be yours, and not just let anyone create a server when that is in fact what you are doing to Disney. You are making an emulator without permissions so what is the issue with the community creating their own servers as well?
You must understand how hard this is. Unlike creating a Toontown server, the POTCO source doesn't come with most of its AIs unlike Toontown. The most important things do not have Disney's AIs in them unlike Toontown. We have had to write AIs and fix so much code and it takes a long time. People can create their own server off of Disney's code or whatever, but why should they have to use ours? If they want to run a server, they should learn how to code it, not just host it. Yes, we're using Disney's code, but without it it would take... probably all this time since we started off of Disney's code just to get Make a Pirate complete (and we have more than Make a Pirate right now, that was finished many months ago). Not only that, but Disney's legal team themselves say it's okay as long as you don't profit off of it. We obviously wouldn't have a copyright or anything to stop people if we got leaked, but you see what I'm saying.
Where did Disney's legal team tell you themselves it was okay as long as profit wasn't made? I'm sure that even if you don't make it open source it will more than likely get leaked. Making it open source combines the efforts of anyone wanting to take part in a POTCO remake, and then allows each project to go off and create the server that they had in mind. This isn't going to be hundreds of servers, because people aren't going to play hundreds of servers. It realistically would be probably around 3 or 4 major servers. Similar to the current TT servers.
Working together with other groups would make it more efficient and easier to make the game. Each group has a different set of skills. Having more people working together on the game will also get the game out faster. We have been waiting for years, and this is the time to ban together and recreate our favorite game in existence.
3 or 4 major servers... yeah, the community will be split up for sure, broham.
It would be nice for all servers to unite but it looks like there are different ideas. But it looks like everyone likes to criticize TLOPO for not supporting the community... woo
The community will be split no matter what.. lol I mean, I'm not going to log in one day and decide to hang out with an entirely different type of people. The server's reflect the type of people that want to play it. There is a TT server that allows you to request your old toon back and ask for different levels, because they just want to go out and experience certain parts of the game again. There could be a heavy role-playing server that everyone on that server is completely full of role-players, there are hundreds of ideas in which a POTCO emulator could be ran, but it is limited if only one project that doesn't have the community in mind creates the game and chooses to do whatever they want to do with it because they are the developers, rather than taking on key leaders of the current POTCO community that has been here for a while, to include people such as Shamus the Brute, Davy, Captain Starr and all those others that have been here for such a long time that have always had the community at heart.
Im not criticizing you, I am just thinking what everyone has been thinking for 2+ years now. Egos aside, I feel that it is the best for the community as a whole.
1. you can lie about your old toon easily
You clearly didn't take any of that in the way I intended because none of those answers addressed anything. I'm done commenting here. Sorry folks! The POTCO community can hope and dream for a consolidated effort but it will clearly never happen because of some simple disagreements, egos, and personal issues with people.
11/10 would disagree again
