Entoni Barns
Swashbuckler
/primp is one of the most used actions in game for female pirates, or at least, it was last time I played POTCO. It's 2017. There's no harm in letting male pirates primp as well. Male pirates break nails too.
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Suggestion Let Male Pirates Primp
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JackRedhawk
Honorable Pirate
I'd prefer not too see this in the game. A buff male pirate checking his nails doesn't seem right to me, lol.
Jamie Stormfury
Honorable Pirate
There are a lot of things that the devs should spend their time on than this imo
Sky Kiwi
Pirate Master
I personally don't care but there's always going to be two sides... The politically correct SJWs and the others who have a more traditional mindset. I personally doubt it will be implemented but there's always a chance
As neither of these things I totally want to be able to primp.
More emotes is good!
Fred Anderson
Forum Mod
Don't mind it, I won't be using it though.
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dreamy princess
i think that would be like and look strange because when females primp their back arches and their eyebrows go crazy.ɾ⚈▿⚈ɹ
Mathias
Wanted Pirate
What's wrong with a big burly dude checking his nails? There's zero harm in it.
Captain Jack Truesilver
Notorious Pirate
Or perhaps we could have a male equivalent to the female primping. Seeing a male checking his nails, especially a seafaring outlaw, is wrong and unnatural. So perhaps we could have the privilege of "contemplative thinking" (so crossing your arms and stroking your jaw/beard) or something else a bit more masculine.
Come to think of it, I've always wanted to see Jack stroking his jaw while making a tough decision on board his ship or in a tavern. Or during a quest on an island. That would look so cool...
If you really want to primp, just create a female pirate.
I've done it. I mean, what?
Come to think of it, I've always wanted to see Jack stroking his jaw while making a tough decision on board his ship or in a tavern. Or during a quest on an island. That would look so cool...
If you really want to primp, just create a female pirate.
I've done it. I mean, what?
Entoni Barns
Swashbuckler
Wow, ya'll. I was not expecting this kind of negativity. I'm not an SJW. I have dude friends who play this game as dude pirates and want to primp. I know dudes in real life who take better care of their nails than I do.
I'm not saying this should be the number 1 thing they should implement, obviously there are better things they could be working on, like better clothes, trading between players, fixing existing bugs, etc. But seriously? Why does it bother you so much???? Like, just let it happen, if it's gonna happen. You don't have to go calling it "wrong and unnatural."
I'm not saying this should be the number 1 thing they should implement, obviously there are better things they could be working on, like better clothes, trading between players, fixing existing bugs, etc. But seriously? Why does it bother you so much???? Like, just let it happen, if it's gonna happen. You don't have to go calling it "wrong and unnatural."
Sky Kiwi
Pirate Master
I was thinking similarly. It boggles my mind that people are so against it. Like if they don't want to use it, that's fine, but they would actually get upset about people doing it? That's crazy!
Mathias
Wanted Pirate
I have a lot of choice words to say to people who are against this, all of them I can't say here.
Mathias
Wanted Pirate
I personally don't care but there's always going to be two sides... The politically correct SJWs and the others who have a more traditional mindset. I personally doubt it will be implemented but there's always a chance
Gender roles are just a social construct. No one gender is better than the other. I know many women who just make a mess in the kitchen, and many men who make meals so satisfying your mouth will water so much, you'll be up to your waist in water by the time you're done eating.
Bart Gunshot
Site Founder
Well one technical problem with this is the animation file only works with the female character model. They would likely have to make the animation from scratch to get it to work on the male character model. I'm not saying it couldn't be done but I don't think its really worth it.
Theres the animation file, if you load it with a male character model nothing happens.
But if you load it with the female character model of course it works.
Theres the animation file, if you load it with a male character model nothing happens.
But if you load it with the female character model of course it works.
Mathias
Wanted Pirate
This means bones are named differently, or that the male pirates have a vastly different skeletal mesh.
Constance
Sea Legs
Yeah, I'm of the mind that there isn't any harm in it but the devs probably have bigger fish to fry than creating a new animation.
Sky Kiwi
Pirate Master
@Bart Gunshot
That's bizarre. Do they have different skeleton setups? Typically any humanoid animation should work for any humanoid model (though it might look bad).
If the skeleton (you might know it as avatar, but that might just be Unity) uses different names for points or something weird like that, all you should really have to do is assign them. Unless male/female models have drastically different setups (which would be messed up) I don't see how it could be anything but a minor inconvenience. Creating a whole new animation would be major overkill.
However, this does raise another question from me: does this mean there's two of each animation files for the ones that work on both genders? One set up for male and another for female?
Though I do admit I don't know how POTCO/TLOPO is set up, there COULD be a good reason for this I suppose. But what I know of animations (admittedly not a whole lot, I'm more into the programming side) tells me this is weird.
That's bizarre. Do they have different skeleton setups? Typically any humanoid animation should work for any humanoid model (though it might look bad).
If the skeleton (you might know it as avatar, but that might just be Unity) uses different names for points or something weird like that, all you should really have to do is assign them. Unless male/female models have drastically different setups (which would be messed up) I don't see how it could be anything but a minor inconvenience. Creating a whole new animation would be major overkill.
However, this does raise another question from me: does this mean there's two of each animation files for the ones that work on both genders? One set up for male and another for female?
Though I do admit I don't know how POTCO/TLOPO is set up, there COULD be a good reason for this I suppose. But what I know of animations (admittedly not a whole lot, I'm more into the programming side) tells me this is weird.
Bart Gunshot
Site Founder
Its probably just that the bones are named differently. However there's no way to fix this that I know of using the original Disney files. There might be a way to do it through scripting within the engine itself, but I'm not that knowledgeable on that side. All models and animations are compiled into Panda3d's own proprietary format .bam which is not human readable. They do have a program that will convert backwards from .bam into .egg which can then be converted further. However when you try and use the program on animation files it currently results in this distorted mess.
They could write a new program or fix the current one to handle animations properly, but at the end of the day its just a lot more work for one simple animation. It would be easier to just remake it from scratch at that point.
Yes, two copies of every animation file used across both genders. Most of these are unused or NPC specific too though.
Mathias
Wanted Pirate
Darnit, why must Panda make everything so difficult!